Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If someone goes into "depression" over a film/book for days or weeks then they need help. It means that they have their own issues or needs which they have attached to the story (or celeb in this case) and instead of believing that is normal perhaps it would be helpful for them to find out why that have made such emotional ties with fiction or celebrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If someone goes into "depression" over a film/book for days or weeks then they need help. It means that they have their own issues or needs which they have attached to the story (or celeb in this case) and instead of believing that is normal perhaps it would be helpful for them to find out why that have made such emotional ties with fiction or celebrity. Actaually wouldn't that mean the oppesite? That if you can afford to feel emotional over things that arent directly related to you in any way that they must not have much of anything to worry about in their own life in general? So unless the depression is causing them to in any way put their life, health and finances at risk, what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 No it means they have issues. We all feel sad over things unrelated to us. Most people however do not go into mourning or depression I've things unrelated to our lives. Perhaps these people who have the gift of feeling so passionate over someone or something they have no relationship with should put it to good use. They should weep for days over the atrocities going on around the world and do something about it instead of being depressed over a celeb/book/film for weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 No it means they have issues. We all feel sad over things unrelated to us. Most people however do not go into mourning or depression I've things unrelated to our lives. Perhaps these people who have the gift of feeling so passionate over someone or something they have no relationship with should put it to good use. They should weep for days over the atrocities going on around the world and do something about it instead of being depressed over a celeb/book/film for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ok well if you all think it's normal to be in grief over a celebrity then you can't be helped. I'm not wasting my time trying to convince you otherwise Ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 No it means they have issues. We all feel sad over things unrelated to us. Most people however do not go into mourning or depression I've things unrelated to our lives. Perhaps these people who have the gift of feeling so passionate over someone or something they have no relationship with should put it to good use. They should weep for days over the atrocities going on around the world and do something about it instead of being depressed over a celeb/book/film for weeks. Gonna have to disagree, because theres tons of examples beyond just celebrities dying of seemingly the world or most people around us being a depression over things unrelated to our personal lives, again, the case of religion shows that right now. Hell Michaels death proved that wrong as hell lol. LOFL, Funny thing is, usually, that doesn't really help. I have a friend in particular who gets into those depressions over celebs and books and movies, but she's also married, and she's been volunteering in Africa every year for about 15 years at a orphanage where nearly every child has AIDS. Both of her parents are still alive, she and her husband are way in love and happy people, but when she's sad she's SAD. So that theory's out the window. I have alot of good friends, a TON of family (alot I like), a career thats going my way, and I get caught up in stories,movies and death and life, and happiness. It works for me, and I wouldn't have it any other way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 MJ is the only person in my entire life to make me cry. Since I was born he's always been there. As a music lover how can you not cry? I didn't cry for days or anything, but it def hit home. He is a part of our culture and our black history. I was upset for a good month after he died because I would hear the most racist comments from disrespectful white people at my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Thats a normal reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Thats a normal reaction. But like Bu already perfectly asked, what exactly makes you the appropriate judge of what's normal? What makes anyone for that matter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 nothing's "normal" but it's not healthy to be attached to someone you don't know.. and more importantly, doesn't know you.. I think that's unfair to say. Certain public figures give a lot of people hope. When that person dies, a piece of their love and hope often dies within themselves. If Obama, the first black president was shot and killed today, you think that people wouldn't cry? Billions haven't met Obama, but they recognize him as historical achievement. Of course they would cry. Regardless if you feel he's the right candidate for president. Certain musicians are the same way. I mean MJ only donated millions to charity. Maybe some of those people who benefited from his charities and hold michael close to their hearts shouldn't cry either. Music is a very strong and emotional tool. It's amazing really. You can't see it, cant touch it, can't taste it, can't smell it...... but you can feel it. It makes you move. It can make you sad, happy, angry, laugh, cry, horny. People have begun to take it for granted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Who are you to say it's not normal? People don't know Jesus or Mohammed or whatever but they have strong feelings for them. Boom You just dragged every bible thumper on the planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Maybe you should read more carefully. I never said you shouldn't be sad. I'm sad when a celebrity I like dies. I'm sad for their family's loss. I'm sad that I won't see/hear their music etc again. There is a difference between being sad and feeling a loss to being so attached to the image of someone you have never met that you go into a deep mourning. It shows that you filled a gap in your life that should be occupied with loved ones with the image of an unreachable person. That makes more sense than how Game was making it sound. But to be honest, not one here even said that their life is on hold simply because Natina has passed, so I'm not understanding why the comment was made to begin with? I cried for Michael but my life didn't "stop". At the end of the day it's rude (and prob heartless) to say that someone shouldn't cry over the death of a person. If folks need that emotional outlet then let them have it. People don't need shady comments and judgment from those who may not feel affected. It's called humanity and compassion. Unfortunately not everyone has it I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I would argue that people who show emotion are being human and to some extent its natural. Now having said that I have never just gone on and on crying over a celeb, but the day I heard when Aaliyah passed, I cried, when Left Eye passed, I cried, when Princess Diana passed I cried a little and thought how sad....it's not about having issues for most people to show some form of emotion, now if you are still mourning the passing of someone who you did not know that passed 19 years ago you might wanna seek therapy. I think therapy is perfectly fine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I would argue that people who show emotion are being human and to some extent its natural. Now having said that I have never just gone on and on crying over a celeb, but the day I heard when Aaliyah passed, I cried, when Left Eye passed, I cried, when Princess Diana passed I cried a little and thought how sad....it's not about having issues for most people to show some form of emotion, now if you are still mourning the passing of someone who you did not know that passed 19 years ago you might wanna seek therapy. I think therapy is perfectly fine I agree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Boom You just dragged every bible thumper on the planet I never lie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I agree could you hit like ...let me show you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 could you hit like ...let me show you Done Funnily enough I've never cried for a celeb that much tbh. I never cried for Aaliyah, Lisa or Diana. I didn't even cry for MJ until Murray was found guilty though...I still don't know why I cried once the verdict was read out. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Done Funnily enough I've never cried for a celeb that much tbh. I never cried for Aaliyah, Lisa or Diana. I didn't even cry for MJ until Murray was found guilty though...I still don't know why I cried once the verdict was read out. Weird. that verdict represented some form of justice, some form of accountability, MJ passed and sadly he had a drug problem, but someone supplied that drug and thus enabled the problem and they had to be held accountable for that. I may not cry at every verdict but I do have emotions when they let Cassey Anthony go I was mad as fuck like bitch better never crawl out from under a rock. When they found that Scott guy from Cali guilty of murdering his wife and unborn child over some pussy he was fucking on the side, I was happy as hell he would rot in a jail cell for that low down dirty shit he did. He dyed his hair blond and was found in Mexico with thousands in cash, then go say he innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Done Funnily enough I've never cried for a celeb that much tbh. I never cried for Aaliyah, Lisa or Diana. I didn't even cry for MJ until Murray was found guilty though...I still don't know why I cried once the verdict was read out. Weird. That king of pop crept up on you It's all good. It's all love. *Hug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 And again.......sadness when a celebrity passes is understandable. Shedding a tear and getting caught up in the emotion of it over a day.... a few days maybe.....understandable. To go into mourning like someone you know and love personally just passed is not normal in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That makes more sense than how Game was making it sound. But to be honest, not one here even said that their life is on hold simply because Natina has passed, so I'm not understanding why the comment was made to begin with? I cried for Michael but my life didn't "stop". At the end of the day it's rude (and prob heartless) to say that someone shouldn't cry over the death of a person. If folks need that emotional outlet then let them have it. People don't need shady comments and judgment from those who may not feel affected. It's called humanity and compassion. Unfortunately not everyone has it I guess. I'm glad you see what I'm saying. I'm not even saying its a bad thing that people deeply mourn the deaths of celebrities. I just think that if that's you, and you were that deeply affected by the death of someone you never knew because they filled such a huge void in your life then maybe it's time to seek therapy to find out what is really missing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I'm glad you see what I'm saying. I'm not even saying its a bad thing that people deeply mourn the deaths of celebrities. I just think that if that's you, and you were that deeply affected by the death of someone you never knew because they filled such a huge void in your life then maybe it's time to seek therapy to find out what is really missing. excuse me if you don't mind me asking a simple yes or no question....have you ever cried over a celeb's passing? just curious no judgment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Done Funnily enough I've never cried for a celeb that much tbh. I never cried for Aaliyah, Lisa or Diana. I didn't even cry for MJ until Murray was found guilty though...I still don't know why I cried once the verdict was read out. Weird. that represented some closure for MJ's death tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 excuse me if you don't mind me asking a simple yes or no question....have you ever cried over a celeb's passing? just curious no judgment No I haven't.....for example I didn't cry when I heard MJ died. I did however shed a tear when the family paid tribute to him and Paris spoke because I felt really sad for them. Of course I was saddened by his passing, just like Whitney, just like anyone who had gone too soon. I am just not that deeply emotionally invested in any celebrity to cry out of personal loss for them. If I was that deeply affected that I couldn't go out and I cried in bed for days and weeks I would realise that I had a problem and seek help. And there's no shame in that. That kind of attachment is a form of emotional dependency which occur between friends/relationships or even in the case of us to celebs which is really unhealthy. We are finding things in people which they really may not be giving to fulfil an emptiness inside forming completely one sided and unreal relationships based on need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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