Mr. Wonder Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 ! PING! & I absolutely hated hearing that shit growing up. Did he MIX her tracks? Teach her choreo? Show her how to grunt the lyrics in place of SINGING them? Did he somehow give her the idea of her album concepts only to come out with shoddy "remakes" of his versions? Do people NOT know that Jan has gone on record, time after time, saying she never wanted to ride on her brothers coattails? That SHE turned his ass down for a duet to PROVE that she was a force on her own & even better at that? & people claim up & down Jan did Scream to get on her brothers train even more. HE needed HER for that song, not the other way around. The shade is the album we brothers actually worked on is her lowest selling album to date, Dream Street. KIII! But of course the general public will never allow someone to be better than MJ...let alone the younger sister. Anyone with a taste in music and analytical skills can see Janet kept that man pressed to his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 ! PING! & I absolutely hated hearing that shit growing up. Did he MIX her tracks? Teach her choreo? Show her how to grunt the lyrics in place of SINGING them? Did he somehow give her the idea of her album concepts only to come out with shoddy "remakes" of his versions? Do people NOT know that Jan has gone on record, time after time, saying she never wanted to ride on her brothers coattails? That SHE turned his ass down for a duet to PROVE that she was a force on her own & even better at that? & people claim up & down Jan did Scream to get on her brothers train even more. HE needed HER for that song, not the other way around. The shade is the album we brothers actually worked on is her lowest selling album to date, Dream Street. KIII! But of course the general public will never allow someone to be better than MJ...let alone the younger sister. Anyone with a taste in music and analytical skills can see Janet kept that man pressed to his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 When you have the biggest selling album in the world then you really have no reason to be pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 When you have the biggest selling album in the world then you really have no reason to be pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 It's cool if they want to think he was "pressed" by her success even if he was more successful. It's a Janet forum so the bias is going to go towards her. As someone that loves and adores both I prefer to be more 'balanced'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 It's cool if they want to think he was "pressed" by her success even if he was more successful. It's a Janet forum so the bias is going to go towards her. As someone that loves and adores both I prefer to be more 'balanced'. Exactly. Michael had plenty of success for a lifetime before she even released Control. Just being honest. Then when she did, it started a new competition and it was always going back and forth. No more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Exactly. Michael had plenty of success for a lifetime before she even released Control. Just being honest. Then when she did, it started a new competition and it was always going back and forth. No more, no less. I see nothing but the truth . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Nobody has told me why MJ turned down Janet's vocals on scream if he wasn't pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Nobody has told me why MJ turned down Janet's vocals on scream if he wasn't pressed. COLLECT THEM SIS!!!! :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 And there was no back-and-forth competition between them post Control. MJ paid close attention to Janet, while she paid him dust. Everything MJ did post Control Janet had already done. There was no point in taking a step back when she was already ahead. *Madonna voice* Rather reductive, wouldn't you say??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrietta. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Nobody's denying that MJ sold more when we say that Janet's better. We're saying that Janet is the better artist. She's one of few artists showed the world that they're not about sales, but about being an artist. MJ noticed that and tried to do the same, but Janet was always ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 this is all i see on the last four posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrietta. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 this is all i see on the last four posts... Your siggy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray. Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Your siggy! it's a damn mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Under normal circumstances i would snatch your weaves back to reality but since this is the only place where your delusion's are tolerable .I will let you live in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Austin STOPIT5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Under normal circumstances i would snatch your weaves back to reality but since this is the only place where your delusion's are tolerable .I will let you live in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 But on the REAL..any true Janet STAN knows that she has always been unfazed by other artists and that INCLUDES HER BROTHER. She's always been one to focus on what she's doin and not lookin over someone elses shoulder to see what they're doin. Its not in Janet nature to be pressed over ANYONE. She's just not made like that,what can you do?! So all the claims that Janet was tryna keep up with Mike is a complete load of COW SHIT if I've never seen some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 But on the REAL..any true Janet STAN knows that she has always been unfazed by other artists and that INCLUDES HER BROTHER. She's always been one to focus on what she's doin and not lookin over someone elses shoulder to see what they're doin. Its not in Janet nature to be pressed over ANYONE. She's just not made like that,what can you do?! So all the claims that Janet was tryna keep up with Mike is a complete load of COW SHIT if I've never seen some. and the same can be said about mIke ...you know that right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Nobody's denying that MJ sold more when we say that Janet's better. We're saying that Janet is the better artist. She's one of few artists showed the world that they're not about sales, but about being an artist. MJ noticed that and tried to do the same, but Janet was always ahead of him. True tea. Thriller was about him trying to win the Grammys OTW didn't. Then after the success of Thriller, he had a sign above one of his doors with the sales written on it as a bar for him to surpass. He was clearly driven by his own success, and constantly trying to match or surpass it. He didn't want to try to be an artist until Janet starting putting herself into her music. That's why none of MJ's songs prior to Rhyhm Nation 1814 Part II Dangerous have a personal touch. None of his albums had a theme until Janet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Austin STOPIT5 But niece, which one is it: A. The tea is too much B. I can't take C. The kitchen temperature is too hot D. I'm pressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Exactly. Michael had plenty of success for a lifetime before she even released Control. Just being honest. Then when she did, it started a new competition and it was always going back and forth. No more, no less. And nothing else needs to be said... :clapping: :clapping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 and the same can be said about mIke ...you know that right OMG.... Are yall gonna really act like Mike wasnt influenced more by Janets sound than Janet being influenced by his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 And nothing else needs to be said... :clapping: :clapping: Janet was envious of his success NOT his sound. Mike was envious of Janets SOUND...PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Janet was envious of his success NOT his sound. Mike was envious of Janets SOUND...PERIOD. Exactly. Michael had plenty of success for a lifetime before she even released Control. Just being honest. Then when she did, it started a new competition and it was always going back and forth. No more, no less. Again, THAT'S all that needs to be said on the topic...everything else is speculative, opinion based, and has entirely to do with whom you prefer and/or think is more influential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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