Bailey Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Okay so I am the only Black in my program and I am also the first Black male to be in it, I have classes all day Monday until 9:30pm then I have lab at 7am Tuesday, I have been late 3 out of 5 labs, BUT went to the afternoon labs to make it up. I decided last time was enough that was not my standard nor could I have that, so I show up to lab today 30 minutes early. The dean is brought in and I am given a verbal write up, basically saying that if I am late again I would be kicked out the program. I read the write up, it had dates, times, quotes, anything and everything, Im like they really keeping an eye on things huh? I told the dean the only quote on there wrong was the one saying I said I could not come to lab because of my 9:30pm class, I said no that's not what I said I said it makes it hard to get thru the turn over in that time, but I never said I could not do it, the dean cut me off and said yes you did say that, I did not argue I just signed it and left it be. I feel maybe they did me some favor, if you're a Black guy working in the hospital they won't cut you any slack they believe we're idiots anyway. So I wonder, do Blacks have to hold a higher standard? Others have been late, but no one else has received a write up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a fact that as the only black guy you will ne noticed. It's also true that as the only black guy you have to make sure you don't allow anyone to have anything on you. You should have never been late once, let alone three times. You have given then ammunition. You are on this course for you, not them, so keep your head down, work hard and get what you came for. You can do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's a fact that as the only black guy you will ne noticed. It's also true that as the only black guy you have to make sure you don't allow anyone to have anything on you. You should have never been late once, let alone three times. You have given then ammunition. You are on this course for you, not them, so keep your head down, work hard and get what you came for. You can do it Thanks Paul that's what i thought...I kinda feel like the dean (even though she's a bitch) was trying to tell me they won't let this slide even once in a hospital, and her convo was all about being in a hospital and being late. So I guess they were correcting me before I get out there and represent them and me. And you're right I did drop the ball and give them ammo I was late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 I was mad though the write up had something in quotes saying I said this and I did not...and she quickly jumped in and said "yes you did" Im like .....but I have learned to see who are with me and those who are not, one of the professors, she taught in Black schools back in her day, and she defended me, like "when is that class you're in til 9:30 at night gonna end ? I said next week...she tried...and even after she told me you're gonna be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ive learned some battles you just don't fight, esp with this dean, she is one of those folks that is always right and even when you are right on something you are still wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I would have told the Dean that if I'm telling he I didn't say something then I didn't and ask her if she's calling me a liar. Stupid bitch But in your situation it's best to keep your head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 I would have told the Dean that if I'm telling he I didn't say something then I didn't and ask her if she's calling me a liar. Stupid bitch But in your situation it's best to keep your head down. that's what I felt, but I also knew you gotta stay on track see the bigger picture, let this be a lesson, grow and learn from it...thank u Paul....you always have sound advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 I would have told the Dean that if I'm telling he I didn't say something then I didn't and ask her if she's calling me a liar. Stupid bitch But in your situation it's best to keep your head down. conforntation would have meant "okay he doesn't get whose in power...kick his ass out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 how about you stop being on CPT and get to ur program on time that's my advice i agree with Paul.. being the only black person in ur program, you have to set a standards... you have to prove yourself.. being late to ur program 3/5x can translate poorly on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Okay so I am the only Black in my program and I am also the first Black male to be in it, I have classes all day Monday until 9:30pm then I have lab at 7am Tuesday, I have been late 3 out of 5 labs, BUT went to the afternoon labs to make it up. I decided last time was enough that was not my standard nor could I have that, so I show up to lab today 30 minutes early. The dean is brought in and I am given a verbal write up, basically saying that if I am late again I would be kicked out the program. I read the write up, it had dates, times, quotes, anything and everything, Im like they really keeping an eye on things huh? I told the dean the only quote on there wrong was the one saying I said I could not come to lab because of my 9:30pm class, I said no that's not what I said I said it makes it hard to get thru the turn over in that time, but I never said I could not do it, the dean cut me off and said yes you did say that, I did not argue I just signed it and left it be. I feel maybe they did me some favor, if you're a Black guy working in the hospital they won't cut you any slack they believe we're idiots anyway. So I wonder, do Blacks have to hold a higher standard? Others have been late, but no one else has received a write up. Was he there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Was he there? No SHE was not another point to argue, today I think one of the guys left the program for real, he did not show for a test nor did he show for lab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK1Czar Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 If something was on that write up that was false, I wouldn't have signed it. I hope you at least wrote your thoughts on the back that that statement was false. HR 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 If something was on that write up that was false, I wouldn't have signed it. I hope you at least wrote your thoughts on the back that that statement was false. HR 101 I did not, but the statement was "because of my 9:30pm class I COULD NOT come to lab" I don't know how important that is, I know the way it was written was very derogatory in tone, and it did not sit well with me, but I think the whole point was to try to get me on the right page before I got into clinicals. I really don't know if I did the right thing or not, the dean is the type that will argue with you and bulldoze over you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Stop being so fucking dramatic Its YOUR fault for being late 100 times stop placing the race card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Stop being so fucking dramatic Its YOUR fault for being late 100 times stop placing the race card that's not the case, others have informed me they were late so "don't feel bad" but none of them had been taken aside, one morning the girls told me "all the guys were late today" another time they asked if I was okay because they ran late due to car accidents, so I am not the only on who has been late but I have been the only one disciplined for it. That's not the race card it's the truth, I happen to be the only Black there, but I happen to also be the only one given written documentation over being late while other late were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 that's not the case, others have informed me they were late so "don't feel bad" but none of them had been taken aside, one morning the girls told me "all the guys were late today" another time they asked if I was okay because they ran late due to car accidents, so I am not the only on who has been late but I have been the only one disciplined for it. That's not the race card it's the truth, I happen to be the only Black there, but I happen to also be the only one given written documentation over being late while other late were not. uve been late 3 times has anyone else been late 3 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Stop being so fucking dramatic Its YOUR fault for being late 100 times stop placing the race card uve been late 3 times has anyone else been late 3 times? Damn, you're really "Overit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Damn, you're really "Overit" thats how i roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 uve been late 3 times has anyone else been late 3 times? twice that I am aware of, I am also aware that yea I was late does not change that, but I corrected the issue myself, I was in lab 30 min early before all this went down, they never said in the write up that of each time I was late I made that time up in the afternoon lab, it was not stated he addressed the issue and dealt with it as demonstrated by the fact he is here 30 min. early, I was not given a copy of the write up. I am all for taking responsibility for my actions, but if I sign something under duress and state I did not say something only to be cut off saying "yes you did" that isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 twice that I am aware of, I am also aware that yea I was late does not change that, but I corrected the issue myself, I was in lab 30 min early before all this went down, they never said in the write up that of each time I was late I made that time up in the afternoon lab, it was not stated he addressed the issue and dealt with it as demonstrated by the fact he is here 30 min. early, I was not given a copy of the write up. I am all for taking responsibility for my actions, but if I sign something under duress and state I did not say something only to be cut off saying "yes you did" that isn't right. you explicitly said in your OP that you were late 3 times... Okay so I am the only Black in my program and I am also the first Black male to be in it, I have classes all day Monday until 9:30pm then I have lab at 7am Tuesday, I have been late 3 out of 5 labs, BUT went to the afternoon labs to make it up. I decided last time was enough that was not my standard nor could I have that, so I show up to lab today 30 minutes early. The dean is brought in and I am given a verbal write up, basically saying that if I am late again I would be kicked out the program. I read the write up, it had dates, times, quotes, anything and everything, Im like they really keeping an eye on things huh? I told the dean the only quote on there wrong was the one saying I said I could not come to lab because of my 9:30pm class, I said no that's not what I said I said it makes it hard to get thru the turn over in that time, but I never said I could not do it, the dean cut me off and said yes you did say that, I did not argue I just signed it and left it be. I feel maybe they did me some favor, if you're a Black guy working in the hospital they won't cut you any slack they believe we're idiots anyway. So I wonder, do Blacks have to hold a higher standard? Others have been late, but no one else has received a write up. As for the rest of the shit, why dont u go talk with the dean again and ask if you can re-discuss the issue its not that hard or someone else u can talk.. im sure there are plenty of student support services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 you explicitly said in your OP that you were late 3 times... As for the rest of the shit, why dont u go talk with the dean again and ask if you can re-discuss the issue its not that hard or someone else u can talk.. im sure there are plenty of student support services I talked to another student, someone I like and mutually trust and she wrote this back so I am okay now, I figured it all out, I have no recourse, I must not drop the ball, and even when I think I am right on something I will always be wrong: Here is her response (another student) Unfortunately they like to pick out small problems in the begining and target those people. My mom has a coworker who used to teach here and said u really need to just mind ur mannors, follow rues and don't complain. I know it may seem catty, but maybe write a few paragraphs about punctuality, and how it will make u a a better, more respected student and nurse, and in the end thank them for holding us to such high standards.. teachers always right, we are kissing their ass for the next 18 months. If you have ANY complaints/issues.. do NOT take it up with the faculty. U can always talk to me. Let me know if that helps you. I was late for peggy 2 times, I told her I had no excuse that its really not like me to do that and it will NEVER happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I talked to another student, someone I like and mutually trust and she wrote this back so I am okay now, I figured it all out, I have no recourse, I must not drop the ball, and even when I think I am right on something I will always be wrong: Here is her response (another student) Unfortunately they like to pick out small problems in the begining and target those people. My mom has a coworker who used to teach here and said u really need to just mind ur mannors, follow rues and don't complain. I know it may seem catty, but maybe write a few paragraphs about punctuality, and how it will make u a a better, more respected student and nurse, and in the end thank them for holding us to such high standards.. teachers always right, we are kissing their ass for the next 18 months. If you have ANY complaints/issues.. do NOT take it up with the faculty. U can always talk to me. Let me know if that helps you. I was late for peggy 2 times, I told her I had no excuse that its really not like me to do that and it will NEVER happen again. i can't with this uve got an excuse for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 i can't with this uve got an excuse for everything what do you want from me dude? If you can't then don't you're always angry addressing people here, I asked for advice not condemnation I already got my scoop of that this week thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 what do you want from me dude? If you can't then don't you're always angry addressing people here, I asked for advice not condemnation I already got my scoop of that this week thank you. That is my advice Stop being such a victim, and making an excuse for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 That is my advice Stop being such a victim, and making an excuse for everything what excuse did I make? I stated the facts there another student late herself several times, no write up...I mean come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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