Laveaux Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 But the actual fact is technically Usher's more successful as a producer if we're going by numbers and success by just writting with and producing for Bieber alone. Da fuq. I thought that Justin writes his own songs for the most part. Maybe you need to do some 'Reasearch' of your own, whateva the fuck that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Da fuq. I thought that Justin writes his own songs for the most part. Maybe you need to do some 'Reasearch' of your own, whateva the fuck that means. But you thought wrong........because Usher has writting credits on all of his albums (except his last 1)........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Rihanna used Justin.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Rihanna used Justin.. And it fucked up her slew of top 20's for that era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 He wrote all his songs on his 2nd and Co-wrote on his newest.. MJ didn't write much for Thriller so the writing credit reach is out the window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 are you really using writing for Justin Bieber as a defense for Usher being a better 'artist' than Justin Timberlake. Chile.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 He wrote all his songs on his 2nd and Co-wrote on his newest.. MJ didn't write much for Thriller so the writing credit reach is out the window ..........................................................don't recall ever saying he didn't write and that Michael wrote everything.......totally not what this conversations about, Always gotta drag a Jackson down to Justin's level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 are you really using writing for Justin Bieber as a defense for Usher being a better 'artist' than Justin Timberlake. Chile.... You indicated Justin was "better" because he wrote & prduced for other for other artists and implied that Usher hasn't. Im just pointing out he didn't just do it but has more success in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 ..........................................................don't recall ever saying he didn't write and that Michael wrote everything.......totally not what this conversations about, Always gotta drag a Jackson down to Justin's level You're trying to drag JT's legacy down.. In his official thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Rihanna used Justin.. When I found out he wrote 'Cold Case Love' I was floored and my voodoo spirit was lifted. He also co-wrote for Madonna on Hard Candy...'Voices' is my shit. I don't even stan for Justin Timberlake, but his musicality is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I find it funny that people put Justin on the same level as Usher. Not to take anything away from Usher because I think he is an incredible performer/entertainer when he wants to be, but Justin Timberlake wears and fits the 'artist' hat a little bit better. I just feel like Justin is on a whole different level, especially since he is able to produce songs for other artist. There is something to be said about that. I just get the feeling that Justin wants to cultivate and evolve his craft, I don't get that feeling from Usher. I will have to disagree. One can prefer one over the other but I laugh when people say that Justin is on a whole other lever above Usher. It just seem that people who hold that opinion wants to uphold that JT is actually innovative, when I don't think he isn't. JT has had his moments, but I can't recall anytime when he was revolutionary. he hasn't exactly helped redefine any standards in this industry like MJ, Madonna, Janet, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You're trying to drag JT's legacy down.. In his official thread But whose thread doesn't have people trying to drag down artist they don't like or supports legacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I will have to disagree. One can prefer one over the other but I laugh when people say that Justin is on a whole other lever above Usher. It just seem that people who hold that opinion wants to uphold that JT is actually innovative, when I don't think he isn't. JT has had his moments, but I can't recall anytime when he was revolutionary. he hasn't exactly helped redefine any standards in this industry like MJ, Madonna, Janet, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I will have to disagree. One can prefer one over the other but I laugh when people say that Justin is on a whole other lever above Usher. It just seem that people who hold that opinion wants to uphold that JT is actually innovative, when I don't think he isn't. JT has had his moments, but I can't recall anytime when he was revolutionary. he hasn't exactly helped redefine any standards in this industry like MJ, Madonna, Janet, etc. I know that Justin is far from innovative. Like I said before, I am not a stan or even a fan really...but in my opinion Justin is a better artist than Usher. And to be perfectly clear, I use Usher just as much as I use Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I will have to disagree. One can prefer one over the other but I laugh when people say that Justin is on a whole other lever above Usher. It just seem that people who hold that opinion wants to uphold that JT is actually innovative, when I don't think he isn't. JT has had his moments, but I can't recall anytime when he was revolutionary. he hasn't exactly helped redefine any standards in this industry like MJ, Madonna, Janet, etc. and neither has Usher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 But whose thread doesn't have people trying to drag down artist they don't like or supports legacy? So I brought up a legend.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You're trying to drag JT's legacy down.. In his official thread You cant "drag" anyone when your TeamXtina. Thats a self inflicted drag :lol: Plz pay the lessors no mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 As someone who just defended Usher, I don't think his producing is that great myself despite his success in it in producing Timberlakes twin, like in my opinion neither of them are game changing tho both have done it, my only point in this is that Usher actually does also write & produce for others. So I brought up a legend.. .......for what reason tho LOL it had nothing to do with the topic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You cant "drag" anyone when your TeamXtina. Thats a self inflicted drag :lol: Plz pay the lessors no mind. I know the actual idea of someone having the nerve to prefer good music over popular music seems absurd to some people...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Who does Usher write and produce for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 That question was already answered on the previous page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 The topic was musicians who write... And their Artistry MJ the king of kings.. The artists of all male artists.. He didn't write every hit.. So you cannot drag JT for not writing some of hits (as if USHER wrote all of his) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I know the actual idea of someone having the nerve to prefer good music over popular music seems absurd to some people...... It's not my fault u clearly feel some kind of way about JT murdering but theres nothing you,me or anyone can do about it...so ur just simply gonna have to get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The topic was musicians who write... And their Artistry MJ the king of kings.. The artists of all male artists.. He didn't write every hit.. So you cannot drag JT for not writing some of hits (as if USHER wrote all of his) But...that soooooo wasn't the topic, it was about Justin writting and producing for OTHER aritst and Usher not.....thats what the topic was, I just pointed out that he did, And was successful in it, so here we are. And if you want to bring MJ in it (tho pointless) he did write for other artists.....Game.......come on now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyHood Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Justin Kingberlake's new album is great. I really like Mirrors and the video especially the interlude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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