Kishi Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Grammys aren't about how successful a song or album is. Yes, that has some effect, but having 2 hits doesn't guarantee a nomination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Game, now you do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Grammys aren't about how successful a song or album is. Yes, that has some effect, but having 2 hits doesn't guarantee a nomination. actually it is. Grammys are based on sales and popularity. You think Justin would be getting nominated if he hadn't sold what he sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Joe, if Grammys was based on sales and popularity..then why didn't the BIGGEST pop record and "singles" - record breaking Rhythm Nation get more love at the Grammys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Joe, if Grammys was based on sales and popularity..then why didn't the BIGGEST pop record and "singles" - record breaking Rhythm Nation get more love at the Grammys? I disagree with him too.. solely based on the Justin hate... Justin and others earn their nomination.. people's favorites aren't always going to win... or be nominated... Joe is just upset Miley got 0 as if she's taken seriously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Joe, if Grammys was based on sales and popularity..then why didn't the BIGGEST pop record and "singles" - record breaking Rhythm Nation get more love at the Grammys? Dayz if you watch the Grammys after it's ending you'll hear the voice announcer state it and even see it written on the ending credits that they're based on sales and radio airplay. Rhythm Nation didn't get love cause i'm sure they thought Janet wouldn't last long in the industry cause she didn't have a singing voice that they thought deserved an award which is what I believe. Same with Mariah but they just hated Mariah. You act like the Grammys aren't known for snubbing people who've deserved awards. I'm not saying Miley deserves any but for her not to be nominated is just complete shade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Meh, Grammy's or not, her album & Jeanelle's are better than all the other girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Grammy academy members are asked to vote based on quality - not sales, chart positions, who your friends are, company loyalty or regional preferences (what does that last one mean?). The members that vote - they're technical "experts" and are only allowed to vote in the fields they 'expert' in. Grammys 2012: Five Things to Know About How Winners Like Adele Are Chosen Each year, music hopefuls both old and new arrive at the prestigious Grammy Award ceremony to see who this year's sweeping sensation will be. British pop-soul star Adele wowed the critics at this year's event, taking home six awards and beating out radio pop heavyweights Rihanna, Lady Gaga, and Bruno Mars. So what makes an artist stand out to the judging panel? Why hasn't your favorite artist won a Grammy, and why does the same artist win multiple awards? Here are five things to know about how the annual music awards work: 1. Record sales don't count. The Recording Academy, who selects and presents the awards each year, do not acknowledge sales or chart positions when determining the winners. According to the ceremony's official website, the Academy makes its decisions based on artistic or technical achievement. Like any honorable award should be, this keeps the selection process impartial and prevents bias. If record sales were taken into account, the decision would be largely fan-based rather than Academy chosen. 2. The Grammys are described as a peer honor. This means that the panel of voters are technical experts in the field that they are voting for. And of course it's important to make sure the judging panel is well-versed in the genre that they are voting for, but the significance of having equal working professionals as voters goes way deeper than that. The peer honor aspect also contributes to the impartial component of the selection process-holding the voters up to the same standards as the nominees helps balance the scale. The public can rest assured that voting members aren't old-fashioned music executives without a taste for new sounds or naïve uninformed fans. 3. Just because an artist hasn't won a Grammy doesn't mean they aren't influential in the music world. Remember that the Grammy Awards are only one ceremony and only one platform of musical respect. The Grammys are geared towards overall recognition in all musical fields, which makes it difficult and impossible to acknowledge every significant sensation to happen to the music world. Ground breaking artists such as Led Zeppelin, Queen, and Jimi Hendrix have never won a Grammy Award. 4. There is a screening process separating submissions from the nominees. Record companies and Academy members can submit content, but it isn't officially nominated until it goes through the screening process. This incorporates over 150 experts in various fields, and voters are only allowed to cast ballots in areas of their expertise. 5. One of the most important things to know about Grammy selection, beyond the technical aspects, is that the award seeks to honor music's next big thing. Taking all factors into consideration (talent, songwriting, production quality, content), the award is meant to recognize influential artists in the grand scheme of popular music. Let's take this year's champion, Adele, for example. There's no doubt that competitors Rihanna, Mumford & Sons and Bruno Mars have had just as much radio play and may be just as popular. But Adele took the soul genre and popularized it by combining it with the pop genre in a way that really resonated with listeners. The 23-year-old singer also breaks the mold of typical female pop stars that use their sex-appeal as part of their image, proving that talent can prevail over commercialized appearance. This can also explain why the same artist typically takes home numerous awards.Since the Grammys look at the big picture when it comes to musical talent--doesn't it make sense that Record of the Year and Album of the Year go to the same artist? So before you grumble and moan about your favorite band lacking nomination, or claim that award shows are fixed, try to take into account the factors leading up to the big ceremony. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes before the stars show up on the red carpet. http://www.ibtimes.c...e-chosen-409830 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Dayz if you watch the Grammys after it's ending you'll hear the voice announcer state it and even see it written on the ending credits that they're based on sales and radio airplay. Rhythm Nation didn't get love cause i'm sure they thought Janet wouldn't last long in the industry cause she didn't have a singing voice that they thought deserved an award which is what I believe. Same with Mariah but they just hated Mariah. You act like the Grammys aren't known for snubbing people who've deserved awards. I'm not saying Miley deserves any but for her not to be nominated is just complete shade Miley doesn't even take herself seriously..therefore her peers (industry ppl/Grammy community) won't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Grammy academy members are asked to vote based on quality - not sales, chart positions, who your friends are, company loyalty or regional preferences (what does that last one mean?). The members that vote - they're technical "experts" and are only allowed to vote in the fields they 'expert' in. http://www.ibtimes.c...e-chosen-409830 Yea I've heard they "ask" the voters to do that, but that's not the same as forcing them, like I see that those are the standards the comitee's being "asked" to follow, but point blank even as far as nominations, theres been horrendous oversights for over 20 years.....Janet's such a example of that, same for Mariah, & ALOT of less popular artists who get either extremely low to NO recognition what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Yea I've heard they "ask" the voters to do that, but that's not the same as forcing them, like I see that those are the standards the comitee's being "asked" to follow, but point blank even as far as nominations, theres been horrendous oversights for over 20 years.....Janet's such a example of that, same for Mariah, & ALOT of less popular artists who get either extremely low to NO recognition what so ever. yeah that's why that list that was provided is of no relevance. They pick whoever they want. You can't tell me Rhythm Nation or The Velvet Rope wasn't of quality to win a few awards. Both only got awards for long and short form video. What kind of shit is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Point being sales are irrelevant to the decision. Otherwise Mimi and Janhova would have more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 And Madonna..would have more if it was about sales.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Point being sales are irrelevant to the decision. Otherwise Mimi and Janhova would have more. sorry but i'ma go by what the Grammys say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yea I can believe it's not about sales, but I still think for the most part its a popularity contest period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 sorry but i'ma go by what the Grammys say Joe, if that were the case do you know how many artists would have mantels and shelves full of Grammys for their HUGE sales? Most of the biggest selling artists don't have a lot of grammys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Joe, if that were the case do you know how many artists would have mantels and shelves full of Grammys for their HUGE sales? Most of the biggest selling artists don't have a lot of grammys How much does MJ have? Xtina only has 3.. And one for Lady Crapalade Best new artist, Beautiful and Ain't no Other Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlaSh-E Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Grammy's don't mean shit anymore The Biggest legends have the smallest amount of Grammy's just because they shined in times where you would have to work damn hard to win one Now... The artist of the moment wins a dozen in a night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Grammy's don't mean shit anymore The Biggest legends have the smallest amount of Grammy's just because they shined in times where you would have to work damn hard to win one Now... The artist of the moment wins a dozen in a night PREACH IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 How much does MJ have? Xtina only has 3.. And one for Lady Crapalade Best new artist, Beautiful and Ain't no Other Man I believe 13 (8 was from Thriller alone) But..Huge selling acts who have been out over 23+ years like Prince,Whit,Madonna,Janet,Mariah only have like 6 or 7 a piece...so yeah...Joe's IT'S ABOUT SALES shit it heavily flawed. Now, Joe if you said its based on popularity these days...that's clear ..we all see that. But sales is not the deciding factor at all,obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Speaking of Grammys (and I don't mean to derail the thread) but I still kii at Bieber losing out to that chick loads of people that only listen to maisntream hadn't heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I didn't even know he had been nominated before. I pay that boy no mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I didn't even know he had been nominated before. I pay that boy no mind I think it was "Best newcomer" - he lost and his fans started tweeting her abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Wtf I hate life sometimes. Way too invested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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