Dave79 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Did we know this?? If this is old news please move along haha. I knew the song had been offered to and passed on by Kylie Minogue, but had never heard of it being written for Janet. https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/britney-spears-toxic-was-originally-meant-for-janet-jackson-says-songwriter-cathy-dennis__31169/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibeology Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 most of us knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_c Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I hear a few days ago. Slave 4 U was also given to Janet and she declined for obvious reasons. I'm still shocked Pharrell offered a song with the word "Slave" in the title to a black woman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vibeology Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 12 hours ago, king_c said: I hear a few days ago. Slave 4 U was also given to Janet and she declined for obvious reasons. I'm still shocked Pharrell offered a song with the word "Slave" in the title to a black woman. things were not so sensitive back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinthahouse Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 we been knew. I wish Make Me and Slumber Party were Janet songs. Her voice would sound so sleazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigi Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 In the Zone would have been hot as a Janet album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcho Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 it is ridiculous and dangerous to see racism and slavery, everywhere, all the time. Slave for you is just erotic, not political song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinthahouse Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Gigi said: In the Zone would have been hot as a Janet album me against the music with madonna wouldve been controversy pop superstardom overload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 12:14 PM, kcho said: it is ridiculous and dangerous to see racism and slavery, everywhere, all the time. Slave for you is just erotic, not political song. We don't need it we have Discipline. If you need more there's also Rihanna's S&M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I only knew about Slave 4 U...had no idea about Toxic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibeology Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, JoeJoe said: I only knew about Slave 4 U...had no idea about Toxic ok im actually confused...i know one of Britneys songs was originally for J...now im not sure which i knew about before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I didn’t know of Toxic but it explains why I like the song so much. I did know of Slave 4 U and I’m glad Janet turned it down. On 10/7/2020 at 3:01 PM, king_c said: I hear a few days ago. Slave 4 U was also given to Janet and she declined for obvious reasons. I'm still shocked Pharrell offered a song with the word "Slave" in the title to a black woman. I feel the same way. But then again Pharrell was talking that “New Blacks” mess a few years ago, so I shouldn’t be surprised. He hasn’t aged right since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 3:11 AM, vibeology said: things were not so sensitive back then. I do think a Black American woman would’ve caught some heat in 2001 with that title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 11:14 AM, kcho said: it is ridiculous and dangerous to see racism and slavery, everywhere, all the time. Slave for you is just erotic, not political song. Unfortunately racism IS everywhere and is structural, which is the real problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Angela said: I didn’t know of Toxic but it explains why I like the song so much. I did know of Slave 4 U and I’m glad Janet turned it down. I feel the same way. But then again Pharrell was talking that “New Blacks” mess a few years ago, so I shouldn’t be surprised. He hasn’t aged right since. "new blacks"? don't know what that means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 hours ago, JoeJoe said: "new blacks"? don't know what that means Here's a quote from him: “The New Black doesn’t blame other races for our issues.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 3:43 PM, Angela said: Here's a quote from him: “The New Black doesn’t blame other races for our issues.” he's a fuckin' idiot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcho Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 1:29 AM, Angela said: Unfortunately racism IS everywhere and is structural, which is the real problem. there is no connection between structural racism in the USA and this pop song. You're confusing With this logic, "black cat" is a problem as well. The title speaks about gang and using the term "black". It's discriminatory for black people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, kcho said: there is no connection between structural racism in the USA and this pop song. You're confusing With this logic, "black cat" is a problem as well. The title speaks about gang and using the term "black". It's discriminatory for black people I’m not confusing and for those that know, know. This isn’t a new topic and was discussed at length on the old forum. For those that understand Black culture in the US, they see why it would’ve been problematic and this discussion was had back in the early 2000s before folks started talking about structural racism to this extent openly and wouldn’t make as silly as a comparison as the one you just made. Sorry if you don’t get it. Maybe you should consider opening up your network instead of making quick judgements on my board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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