Twistedvelvet Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Yup, and simple pop songs are what cemented Janet as a global star You can't honestly put fun classics like 'Escapade' up with a song called 'Oops I did it again' and 'baby, one more time' LOL. The difference is, Janet's fun songs were family friendly, ie adults would not feel too old listening to them. But put 'Ooops' on and its like a day at the nursery. That's not classic. Together Again is classic pop. In regards to 20 Y.O, even that slip is better then any album Britney's released. Nobody is gonna remember 'Blackout' or Rihannas 'Loud' in 10 years time, the way we still hear 'Together again' on the radio today, or 'Thats the way love goes' or 'When I think of you'. These are all timeless classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Yeah, after you've dominated the Hot 100 for years, just aiming for the r&b charts (or any of the other genre-specific charts) would be a big step down. It was ONE song that was aiming for the r&b charts not the whole album.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 20 YO is not better than any album Britney has released... I'm sorry. You just dont seem to like her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Yeah, after you've dominated the Hot 100 for years, just aiming for the r&b charts (or any of the other genre-specific charts) would be a big step down. Thats what I'm tryna explain to Blatin It is more of a step down...but it is better than it completely flopping..I will say that but still.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 I'm not tryna deny her r&b at all but she's MUCH MUCH bigger than that. By you leaning so much on this r&b stuff you make Janet sound like some average platinum selling r&b chick.. :mellow: Because I refuse to deny her r&b side?? Most of her pop hits have a r&b feel to them... All For You is the perfect example.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 Thats what I'm tryna explain to Blatin It is more of a step down...but it is better than it completely flopping..I will say that but still.. Definitely - better to be #1 on at least 1 chart rather than no chart at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 20 YO is not better than any album Britney has released... I'm sorry. You just dont seem to like her. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Ijanet I said the same damn thing.. Call On ME was to get her back on r&b first and from there they were aiming for pop radio with So Excited.. The song period should have never been made..is my point..it was WEAK but kudos her it being #1 on r&b but her return should have been alot stronger still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedvelvet Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 'Call on me' WAS a Hot100 hit. It peaked higher than Britney's Slave for you, Overprotected, Me against the music, and many other britney so called classics aren't far off. No, it wasn't a no.1, but it was a popular single that had enough behind it to push for more singles and promotion. There was no reason why Janet couldn't have continued with more singles and full promotion after that. But she had the whole SB issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 :mellow: Because I refuse to deny her r&b side?? Most of her pop hits have a r&b feel to them... All For You is the perfect example.. No you seem to be acting like r&b charts are MAJOR when they are NOT honestly. To a Keyshia Cole,yes...but to a Janet NO because she more than just an r&b act. We ALL know Janet fuses the two worlds of r&b and pop..I'm not denying that at all but lets not be overly excited over r&b charts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 'Call on me' WAS a Hot100 hit. It peaked higher than Britney's Slave for you, Overprotected, Me against the music, and many other britney so called classics aren't far off. No, it wasn't a no.1, but it was a popular single that had enough behind it to push for more singles and promotion. There was no reason why Janet couldn't have continued with more singles and full promotion after that. But she had the whole SB issues. The superbowl was 2 years ago from 2006 sis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 No you seem to be acting like r&b charts are MAJOR when they are NOT honestly. To a Keyshia Cole,yes...but to a Janet NO because she more than just an r&b act. We ALL know Janet fuses the two worlds of r&b and pop..I'm not denying that at all but lets not be overly excited over r&b charts.. This is why they have those charts because it would be impossible for most R&B,Jazz or Rock artist to get a number one on the main charts.. You can't down play their number one because it's not on the main charts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 The superbowl was 2 years ago from 2006 sis. Don't act like POP radio was all over Janet.. Even with Feedback we still had issues with those bastards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 'Call on me' WAS a Hot100 hit. It peaked higher than Britney's Slave for you, Overprotected, Me against the music, and many other britney so called classics aren't far off. No, it wasn't a no.1, but it was a popular single that had enough behind it to push for more singles and promotion. There was no reason why Janet couldn't have continued with more singles and full promotion after that. But she had the whole SB issues. It peaked at #25 ..usually a song isn't exactly considered a hit unless its at least in the TOP 20. Why even bring up the fact that it charted higher than some of Brits singles? Brit has never been that strong on HOT100 in the first place...why do you think she only has a few #1s in a 12 year career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 This is why they have those charts because it would be impossible for most R&B,Jazz or Rock artist to get a number one on the main charts.. You can't down play their number one because it's not on the main charts.. Im not down playing anything but EVERY artist will much rather be #1 on POP than #1 on R&B...even you would if you were an artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedvelvet Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 The superbowl was 2 years ago from 2006 sis. Are you actually denying this. MTV still wasn't playin her, pop radio wasn't playin her, remember Oprah, GMA, them still asking about it. It was still an issue then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 The superbowl was 2 years ago from 2006 sis. Well she was blacklisted which made her have to rebuild her career..so it still had its effects on 20yo era,certainly..without a doubt..but Janets single choices didn't help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedvelvet Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 It peaked at #25 ..usually a song isn't exactly considered a hit unless its at least in the TOP 20. Why even bring up the fact that it charted higher than some of Brits singles? Brit has never been that strong on HOT100 in the first place...why do you think she only has a few #1s in a 12 year career? So why is it okay for her songs (most of which have haven't chart higher (only 6 top 5s)) to be called hits and for her to have lots of singles from one album with continued promotion, but as soon as Janet doesn't score a no.1 its a flop??? Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedvelvet Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Well she was blacklisted which made her have to rebuild her career..so it still had its effects on 20yo era,certainly..without a doubt..but Janets single choices didn't help I thought 'Call on me' was a good lead song. You could say the same about 'Got til its gone', but that didn't stop the VR from selling 10 mill,having tonnes of singles and a massive tour. I don't know why she cancelled the tour with 20Y.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Well she was blacklisted which made her have to rebuild her career..so it still had its effects on 20yo era,certainly..without a doubt..but Janets single choices didn't help Exactly. I'm not denying that Janet wasnt blacklisted or anything, but at the same time the single choices were horrible & the music itself wasnt stong itself. Discipline had a better chance of going platinum before 20 YO just imo. Also.. someone brought up the point of her not focusing on her WW audience during that time which also seemed like a big mistake imo, because to the best of my knowledge she was only blacklisted in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Im not down playing anything but EVERY artist will much rather be #1 on POP than #1 on R&B...even you would if you were an artist Of course they would but they know damn well they wont. Especially now that it's all run by teens/tweens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 So why is it okay for her songs (most of which have haven't chart higher (only 6 top 5s)) to be called hits and for her to have lots of singles from one album with continued promotion, but as soon as Janet doesn't score a no.1 its a flop??? Hmmm who and what are you talking about? Because if you're talking about Britney..I'm not here to defend her...take that up with the Brits stans in here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 I thought 'Call on me' was a good lead song. You could say the same about 'Got til its gone', but that didn't stop the VR from selling 10 mill,having tonnes of singles and a massive tour. I don't know why she cancelled the tour with 20Y.O. Because LA Reid wanted her to go back in the studio and record Discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Exactly. I'm not denying that Janet wasnt blacklisted or anything, but at the same time the single choices were horrible & the music itself wasnt stong itself. Discipline had a better chance of going platinum before 20 YO just imo. Also.. someone brought up the point of her not focusing on her WW audience during that time which also seemed like a big mistake imo, because to the best of my knowledge she was only blacklisted in America. Feedback was the perfect example of her still having trouble on the pop charts.. There was no reason way that song couldn't reach the top 5.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Exactly. I'm not denying that Janet wasnt blacklisted or anything, but at the same time the single choices were horrible & the music itself wasnt stong itself. Discipline had a better chance of going platinum before 20 YO just imo. Also.. someone brought up the point of her not focusing on her WW audience during that time which also seemed like a big mistake imo, because to the best of my knowledge she was only blacklisted in America. I certainly dont agree with that Lets be real..Janet started making bad single choices starting with Damita Jo..it didn't just start at 20yo. I really think 20 YO had a chance to do better than DJ and Disc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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