ThatOtherFan Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 which song(s) can you AND MJ relate to... I'll wait is it Thriller Michael made enjoyable and relatable. What isn't relatable about the songs Michael composed? Your reaching for the sake of argument...and poorly if I may add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzebabe Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 He's a genius, end story boy I live in NYC...I can go on any corner and find you people who will kill(bad use of words lol) MJ beatboxing...don't do it...if you gonna talk genius, come with something better than that video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 stop the track...MJ was jackin for producers? chile.........well, he did go and get Teddy Riley, who is like a dumbed down version of Jimmy and Terry...ya'll remember Bobby Brown's Control Don't Be Cruel album..................................... Yup. Jimmy and Terry turned him down because they were devoted to Janet's janet. project. You know it amazes me how people don't see Janet's impact in music. It's far greater than what it appears to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The one where just about every other artist to come after him copied his style We're not talking about dancing and clothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrietta. Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The one where just about every other artist to come after him copied his style Is "swagger jacking" a genre? I mean if so he did create it since he swagger jacked from Elvis and James Brown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I'm talking about MJ as a person. After the '05 trials he vanished and went into hiding. Instead of putting his "musical genius" into good use to rebound the public's bad perception on him. It has been done before I wonder why MJ couldn't do it.... That is not musical genius... R. Kelly putting out hits after his BS has nothing to do with musical genius. I thought were talking about an individuals/artists body of work, not about the rate in which he or she went back into the studio and released music after a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Michael made enjoyable and relatable. What isn't relatable about the songs Michael composed? Your reaching for the sake of argument...and poorly if I may add. open iTunes... go to ure MJ playlist (we all have em) and start naming off tracks that YOU AND MJ can relate to... easy directions right? THEN name a song that is deep... that he wrote (and not his hippie songs including that children/save the world hippie songs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selz Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Anyone can spin in circles and grab crotch... ask* any dancer in this world... any street rat can beat box... he's not the king of beat boxing just like Janet's not the Queen of scatting this isn't a great about what he's good at... or bad at... My point that you missed was that he could do all that shit... and more... and very few artists have that whole package. I equate that with genius. PERSONALLY. Nice Freudian slip, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 boy I live in NYC...I can go on any corner and find you people who will kill(bad use of words lol) MJ beatboxing...don't do it...if you gonna talk genius, come with something better than that video I didn't post it in reference to his beatboxing skills. It was in reference to his knowledge of musical sound and composition. Then recompose those exact notes into a drum machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selz Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 We're not talking about dancing and clothing No, 'we' aren't. #shadefail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 open iTunes... go to ure MJ playlist (we all have em) and start naming off tracks that YOU AND MJ can relate to... easy directions right? name a song that is deep... that he wrote (and not his hippie songs) Every single song he wrote is relatable. That is BS and you know it. I'm not doing this with you, just so you can drag out/create this nonsensical argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I didn't post it in reference to his beatboxing skills. It was in reference to his knowledge of musical sound and composition. Then recompose those exact notes into a drum machine. so he can imitate the sound of a drum.. my farts sound like trumpets.. does that make me a musical genius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzebabe Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 My point that you missed was that he could do all that shit... and more... and very few artists have that whole package. I equate that with genius. PERSONALLY. Nice Freudian slip, by the way. as the creator of this thread, I must once again emphasize, this not a thread about anything other than music...this is not about dancing, this is not about videos....just music...all those others things come after the music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Every single song he wrote is relatable. That is BS and you know it. I'm not doing this with you, just so you can drag out/create this nonsensical argument. the fact that you CAN'T name an MJ song that he & u can relate to.. well says enuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 so he can imitate the sound of a drum.. my farts sound like trumpets.. does that make a musical genius? It's more than that and you know it Just like we all know it ain't him singing this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld8RuyGZhCI It simply wasn't genius enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 That is not musical genius... R. Kelly putting out hits after his BS has nothing to do with musical genius. I thought were talking about an individuals/artists body of work, not about the rate in which he or she went back into the studio and released music after a trial. FAIL. You're failing to look at the bigger picture. I'm asking you if MJ is such a 'musical genius' why couldn't he create music to rebound all the scrutiny? Why did he decide fly out to the Middle East and release Greatest Hits compilation after compilation? It's a simple question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzebabe Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 I didn't post it in reference to his beatboxing skills. It was in reference to his knowledge of musical sound and composition. Then recompose those exact notes into a drum machine. that equates musical genius? (that's a serious question since I don't feel like i've gotten a full opinion from you about what make him a musical genius...i'm certain you don't feel it's only what you typed and that you have other reasons) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 the fact that you CAN'T name an MJ song that he & u can relate to.. well says enuff... the fact that you CAN'T have this conversation without nonsensical BS ... well says enuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 No, 'we' aren't. #shadefail #shadefail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 and its not like Genius is such a power word anyway gen·ius –noun, plural gen·ius·es An exceptional natural capacity of intellect, especially as shown in creative and original work in science, art, music, etc. The genius of Mozart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 It's more than that and you know it Just like we all know it ain't him singing this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld8RuyGZhCI It simply wasn't genius enough. but Hold My Hand is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 but Hold My Hand is :lmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzebabe Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 the fact that you CAN'T name an MJ song that he & u can relate to.. well says enuff... I think I get what you are saying...everyone can relate to a Heal The World, you're talking about personal vulnerability...like a TVR type situation...or am I completely wrong? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 that equates musical genius? (that's a serious question since I don't feel like i've gotten a full opinion from you about what make him a musical genius...i'm certain you don't feel it's only what you typed and that you have other reasons) Not solely. It's the many reasons people are saying. There is no ONE reason for his genius, its the collaborative medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 the fact that you CAN'T have this conversation without nonsensical BS ... well says enuff... you ---> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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